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Check out my other items!The 2012 Toronto Bottle Show
Rob CampbellThe 19th annual2012 Toronto Bottle &Antique Show and SalewasSunday April 22ndat the Oriole Community Centre at 2975 Don Mills Rd in Toronto Ontario. There were over 40 dealers with approx one hundred items each- that's four thousand highly collectible pieces of early Canadian glass and pottery for sale under one roof... This place is a bottle collector's paradise.Here'sRene Menardwho drove all the way from Montreal to shop at the show this year. He collects French Canadian bottles and loves to pick over the shows and sales in Ontario looking for stuff that came from Quebec.This year theFour Seasons Bottle Collectors Clubannual Show and Salewas held in the Oriole Community Centre, which is a skating rink at 2975 Don Mills Road in Toronto. This nice central location was no doubt quite handy for people who were driving into the city from distant markets. But unfortunately the venue was cold and rather dimly lit by overhead sodium lamps. Honestly, I was disappointed by the accommodations and seek to improve the venue in coming years. I'm a member of this club now.
And so it came to passthat the biggest bottle show in Canadawas held in a hockey arena. And it was cold in there. Everyone had their coats on.. And over in the corner,Randall Mathieusplayed his acoustic guitar, which was oddly perfect. He played Stompin' Tom and Robbie Robertson of The Band. I'm still humming along with his rendition ofUp On Cripple Creek.Admission was $5.00. I paid the guy with the stamp outside and Sean Murphy refunded my money inside, without me asking for it. He reminded me that club members don't have to pay the $5 fee at the annual show. Its a perk.At 9:30am over two hundred people poured in the open doors, and each attendee was no doubt contemplating a shopping list of items the were hoping to spot, bargain for and acquire. Lots of folks come here to do comparison shopping, and thereby learn more about their own collections. So they began feverishly scouring the tables looking for anything on their list, or anything curious, and when they spot a gem they jump in and interrupt all nonsensical blog interviews. This was my experience during the first few minutes of the show - the hungry dealers give new buyers time and attention over blog interviewers, I find myself on the outside, watching the pickers haggle and trade. To the left is John Goodyear with Ron King who owns aToronto basement waterproofingcompany and who finds beautiful bottles in downtown properties by doing excavations directly related to his job.The savvy shoppers will often wait until after lunch to buy anything they really like - if they can stand to wait on the deal. They know that prices fall as the day gets older, but they risk someone else scooping their finds. Dealer don't like packing up unsold merchandise at the end of the show and prefer sales with small profits to the drudgery of transport. And so a timely offer is often as compelling as a generous offer, you just have to wait for the right time.After four or five years of documenting the show I know when to back off and wait my turn. My mission is simply to report the scene and to interview the charismatic dealers that I don't already know. And to say hello again to the folks I've interrogated before. I always ask new guys if they are diggers, and in my head I try to loosely identify the source of their merchandise, as that's what separates the professionals from the hobbyists in this business.For most of the show, the center of gravity seemed to be in the back south corner where three Canadian pottery kingpins were all set up to sell their wares. First was John Goodyear, who is an Eastern Ontario diver and digger and dealer of some repute. The beautiful jugs and crocks pictured above are from his table, and were priced to move.Malcolm and Newfare the most colourful and charismatic dumpdiggers in Canada. They work well together in bottle shows and bottle holes and seem to find the most and best stuff. And they are honest with other diggers who occasionally get the honour of accompanying them on their extraordinary adventures. One look at their treasure table will humble the proudest collectors, and more so knowing that each piece was discovered somehow, and with these guys that was very likely at the bottom of a deep hole. Click the pictures to expand - the photo below is a snap shot of what Malcolm keeps under glass in his display case.Malcolm andNewfused to be the two most active and hardest working dumpdiggers in Ontario, but have since become more savvy shoppers... I suspect they dig through items and estate sales more than old dumps these days. Still you cannot deny their volume or quality of proffered wares, and new discoveries.Right beside this pair was another giant among collectors, the man who is equal parts loved, hated and admired by three quarters of the community,Abel Da Silva.Abel Da Silvastarts the show standing at rest behind his tables, which are well stocked with decorative glass, rare early Toronto soda pop bottles, Canadian whiskys, stoneware jugs and crocks. He knows the value of art glass and likes to buy decorative advertising and breweriana.He meets the people as they come and sells lots of bottles. He takes in their money and most importantly he listens to each customer's requests. Abel has a keen ear for remembering details and making himself familiar with what people are looking for ... and that's howAbel Da Silvasells items off of other peoples' tables in the afternoon. For the first two hours Abel is stationary, amassing credit with his wife June as he liquidates his best bargains.Then around noon Abel becomes more nomadic and begins to use the information stored in his head. He takes careful notes of what's left on each of the dealer's tables around him and what might be had for cheap prices or worked into a three way deal.The clever man's sharp eyes and calculating brain help him sift through the visual data and match it to corresponding customer lists stored in his head; he knows the biggest bottle buyers all over Canada. You can see him in the background of so many of my pictures in the afternoon, working his magic putting together three ways deals and acting as a catalyst to cash transactions. He practices the art of the deal and profits from the combination of knowing what people want and where to get it.Derek Tatler waits behind his syrup cans.Derek brought a complete set of BC Sugar, ROGERS' GOLDEN SYRUP cans, along with a smattering of glass insulators, and a half dozen pieces of pink carnival glass. He also had about fifteen fruit sealers and some of these were dug relics from his own adventures. Derek is one the true Dumpdiggers at the show. Years ago he used to dig farm dumps, and frequent the Rosedale valley holes and pockets along the Toronto Lakeshore. He confessed to having jumped a few fences in his day and some of the recovered booty is core to his primary keepsakes.This Sunday he brought out some nice doubles that he has in his inventory. He offered to sell me highly coveted fruit sealers and creamers that he keeps in his own display, or rather these units are not in his display for there is no room for doubles, and so they must be sold or traded here at the show.Derek held up a pint sized fruit jar with correct lid embossed, THE DARLING / IMPERIAL for which he wanted $150, and which he says came from a dig along the Toronto waterfront.. And in his other hand he held a quarter pint creamer embossed W. WILLIAMSON / AURORA for which he was asking $200.Here'sMarcus Johnsonwith large Bennington bowl which is a pottery company that was first established in Bennington Vermont in 1785. The pottery became The Norton Stoneware Co after it began making stoneware in 1815. Pieces painted by John Hilfinger are considered among the best, although later when the firm was renamed the The United States Pottery Company in 1852 a UK immigrant named Daniel Greatbach modeled some of some inspirational pieces. To my knowledge Marcus had an unsigned piece. It was something he called 'splatterware'. Marcus hunts yard sales and finds his best stuff rummaging through sale barns and at live sales. He's been picking and collecting pottery since 2002, and is a regular at the Toronto show.Steve Mouckis an owner and the operator of Lincoln Estate Vineyards which has limited vintages and really more of a boutique grape juice producer in the Niagara peninsula. He specializes inNiagara fallsbottles and tourist related glass whimsies, and like so many other collectors he seeks 19th century salt glazed stoneware from Niagara. He covets the jugs and crocks that were produced by potteries or commissioned by merchants to preserve the harvest. After years of collecting and running a website called Garden City Glass, Steve has amassed a hoard of St Catherines areas glass bottles and pottery.Mike and Barbara Emreare cleaning house and making room for their retirement by liquidating three or more of Mike's diverse and extensive collections. As Barbara talked to the customers Mike was able to relate how he had started as a boy collecting pop bottles - the old ones couldn't be returned for a deposit. That evolved to beer bottles and then to ginger beer bottles and then to early Canadian stoneware pottery.But Mike also had a large collection of paper label whisky bottles. These are survivors - paper label bottles that were recovered just a few meters away from where they were consumed, usually in an old barn, basement or garage. The labels survived and stand testament to a different age when men and women drank at work, and consumed large amounts of alcohol in bottles hidden around their homes and job sites.Mike Emre holds out a Hudson’s Bay Scotch Whiskey quart flask in good condition and for sale at $28. This item looks ancient but in truth is only about forty years old. It does speak to the legacy of Canada's oldest retailer. This is a company that was trading whisky for fur back in the 1600s. However what many people don't know is thatHudson's Bay company is still selling whiskey in the United States today,and even the labels on the bottles today bear some resemblance to the one Mike is holding here. And that's probably why Mike was only asking $28 for the piece, which is a great price for a good storyfull bottle that will surely stand out in any display.Robert Brakand his wife Linda hold a bright yellow tin Wishing Well soda pop advertising sign which they sold later that day to a home decorator for twenty five bucks. A good score.Linda Brakcollects painted label soda bottles and Robert Brak likes his stoneware ginger beers. The two both lived on farms near Meaford when they were growing up, and used to enjoy digging and collecting old bottles as teenagers. They dug a lot of farm dumps and really got hooked, and then hitched in 1974 at which time they relocated to Goderich Ontario. Their passion for digging was put on hold in that region however as they were hard pressed to find any old dumps. Goderich had probably been picked over by some of the diggers in this room.One of the ginger beer bottles for sale on Robert's table was the same make and model as was discovered in our Meaford dump expedition when myself andTim Braithwaite dug there with Ace of Spades in November 2009. We uncovered an A Robertson Mt Forest Ont and ours was flawless - this one has an obvious crack. Which is why I thought his $80 price tag was a little unreasonable, but I reckon he's a clever tactician starting on the high ground.At the next table a dealer named Richard Clark was selling a $1600 aqua pint GEM Rutherford fruit sealer with matching lid and top. Click the picture.Two tables away there were lots of gilt picture frames and old souvenirs. The dealer was referencing the price of gold as if to suggest the value of her gold decorated merchandise would rise and fall with this index. I happen to know aVancouver gold buyerwho warns public that he will not buy gold rim teacups, or gilt frames or anything gold leaf - you can learn quite a bit about gold manufacturing variants in his FAQ .
Ron Hunspergerperches behind a lovely collection of colored SHUTTLEWORTH POISON bottles all priced to sell between $100 and $200 each, depending on colour and rarity. Ron is a poison bottle collector and horticulturalist.Mr Hunsperger also collects rare varieties of Hosta in his other life in his greenhouse. He currently has 259 varieties in his gardens, and is therefore one of the largest growers in Canada.Ron started collecting all sorts of things to keep his mind active and hands busy in his spare time, after work and on weekends. He gave himself projects and hobbies to distract his overclocked brain so he could stop thinking about his work, which was detail orientated. As time goes by, Ron has narrowed his passions down to poison bottles and is parting with unrelated specimens that he knows other people need to complete their collections.Ron does two shows a year, this one and the Cambridge show which is put on by one of his friends. Before the show began on Sunday April 22nd he bought a rare white milk glass druggist bottle from one of the other dealers in the room. The bottle reads GARLAND & RUTHERFORD / APOTHECARIES / KING ST. HAMILTON and according to Ron it could be worth between two and three hundred dollars depending on condition.By some strange coincidence a digger named Mark VanHee who is also known as 'Trail' had the very same bottle in his pocket. He had just found this piece in a dump near Hamilton and had come to the Toronto show to learn its price. These guys are active diggers - I want to write a story about a cave-in they recently experienced which Ace says was the scariest fifteen minutes of his life. Click the small photo left to seeJason HayterandMark VanHee, AKA the Ace of Spades and Trail.Bob Andrewscollects mortuary relics in Port often buys whole boxes of stuff at sales and job lots at sales, which keeps him busy sorting, cleaning and restoring historic items all year long. He had a twelve unit wax candle mold on his table. Bob collects all types of stoneware and sells his doubles and anything outside his niche here at the show. Himself and his wife Sue have decorated their house in Roycroft metalware and Rockingham pottery. Apparently the two styles really complement each other and provide the motif in which they live. One recent acquisition was a butter pat cutter that can slice a one pound block of butter in three sizes – 48 squares, 60 squares or 72 small pats of butter – this is hotelier kitchenware.
"How do you have it set today?" I asked
"Oh.. we eat Becel margarine" Sue answered, "its made from Olive oil and not cow’s milk."Around five years ago Bob Andrews started collecting embalming fluid bottles and other mortuary relics. This rather unusual and slightly moroffer new focus came after he acquired a massive J.H. Schwartz embalming fluid bottle. Its very pretty and a natural centerpiece to any mortuary product display. Now Bob finds himself looking for more antiques funeral home related artifacts, especially paper label embalming fluid bottles like the one on the right.Tim Maitlandand his fatherJim Maitlandwere at the north end of the arena, holding court behind six dozen painted label milks beers and soda pop bottles. Back in 2010, Tim Maitland really distinguished imself by holding up a gorgeous yellow and black Maple Leaf Beverages soda from Hamilton.Check it out on Flicker.Both Tim and Jim Maitland reside in southwestern Ontario and collect bottles from Sarnia, Petrolia, Lemington and other small towns found down along the Windsor flats. Jim collects really early beers. He comes to the Toronto show to buy up the last of the prime pieces he needs to complete his huge collection. In the photo above, Jim holds such a bottle. Here's a rare amber blob top quart beer with a lightning stopper marked COLBERT / EGMONDVILLE. The historic vessel is reputed to be worth over $1000, and both men were real happy with their successive trades alongside the necessary cash spent to acquire the piece. This was Jim's prize that day at the show, and something he can take to show off to Pete Bechtel and the rest of the CCBA - the Collectors of Canadian Brewery Advertising at their annual convention in July.Steve Peters is another Southwestern Ontario dumpdigger!Steve collects stoneware ginger beer bottles from St Thomas and he has all manner of jugs and crocks from that part of the world on display in his house. He used to dig old dumps with Tim Maitland and that explains why they both collect Petrolia bottles, which as you might remember was an oil company town in 1857 after James Miller Williams of Hamilton struck oil and built the first commercial oil well near Oil Springs, was absolutely jubilant this day, for he too had just purchased a remarkable crown jewel for his St Thomas area collection, and was now feeling very proud of himself. He had just wrestled this beauty away from Scott Jordan who had bought it sale from the late John Meyers estate sale. Steve told me that he paid $2000 for this little pint-sized vessel, which as you can see is marked ENGLISH GINGER BEER / J CORDERY. This little stoneware bottle was, by all accounts, made in Canada and not ordered in from abroad (Bristol Pottery in England) like so many of the Great Lakes breweries. James Cordery brewed beer in London Ontario in the 1880s before moving to St Thomas in 1890. He set up shop in that small south western Ontario town and soon thereafter went blind. In 1900 he offered everything he had for sale and Mr. Peters actually has a copy of the bill of sale.Richard St Ongereturned to the 2012 Toronto Bottle Show as an official dealer, alongsideBill Cook.The two wise men stood behind a legislature of Coca Cola related artifacts and advertising products. They love Coke items and were the first to remark on their scarcity at the show this year. Bill also pointed out that there were absolutely no glass marbles this year and he wondered if that strain of collecting was finally heading into obsolescence, with no more collectors. When I asked him to hold up his best piece he instinctively reached for a fine honey amber 1910 Coke bottle from Chattanooga Tennessee that he had just bought in Atlanta Georgia, which is the home of Coke and of course the largest annual Coca Cola collectibles convention in the world. The price was $125.
Bob Harrisis a member of the Four Seasons bottle club and veteran digger, multidisciplinary picker and antique aquarium collector. I caught him at the 2012 Bottle Show holding a highly collectible fish food tin marked NATURAL AQUARIUM FOOD from Grassyfork Fisheries Inc that he had just bought off Jamie McDougall for twenty dollars. Bob loves to talk about aquariums and we have talked before about the jewel in his collection, a fourteen gallon Sherring Bros aquarium made in 1857 for marine research laboratories. This very old artifact is, Bob claims, the very first commercial aquarium ever sold in North America. What is something like that worth? Bob says he's been offered eight thousand dollars for the piece and he turned it down. Bob sent me an email today and dutifully reported,"I should have mentioned that the reason I know that the fish food tin I bought from Jamie is old, is that the fish bowl and stand on the tin cover is a representative of the 1930’s style fishbowl. I have a few of these bowls in my collection, so it’s nice to have the tin as a go-with. The food in the tin is pellet food. Flake food was developed in Germany in 1950 by a company called Tetra Werke. They are still in business and produce a fish food called, Tetra Min. So the tin has to be older than that. My guess is just after WWII. Obviously, nothing was being made during the war. The company that made this tin is Grassyfork which is a very large goldfish fish farm in the US. By the way, the old fish food was actually made of crushed dog biscuits. Nothing scientific about that.Jamie McDougalwas parked beside the front door and became the first stop for every shopper heading north. His colorful shirt captures curious eyeballs. The artifacts on his table were even more interesting; they're not always beautiful but full of good stories. Like these two pop cans Jamie had on display. At first glance they appear downright ugly. The can on the right looks practically new. But look closer. Pick it up and hold it and you will understand that this aluminum can is completely empty and yet it's unopened. That means it was erroneously sealed shut and shipped empty of the contents! How does something like that happen? It occurs more often than you might think, but often times its caught by staff filling vending machines or retailers, truck drivers or ... This one unit of product was shipped empty and bought by a consumer and not reported - it survives to exist today as unique variation of a popular soft drink package. How did this happen? It could be the people at the bottling plant were messing around on the night shift. Perhaps one factory worker was making himself some rare collectibles?Terry Matzis Canada's foremost torpedo bottle dealer and runs an antique website calledTerry's Torpedo Bottleswhich is first on Google for the word torpedo bottles only because Terry comes first in the hobby. Here he is holding a relic from the Boer War, and English rifleman's torpedo bottle canteen. The leather bound glass vessel is stamped 1st V.B.M.R 59 which he translates for me as First Volunteer Battery Manchester Regiment and the 59 could refer to the individual soldier or the brigade or the artillery piece to which the squad was assigned. The piece has no top? Terry says it would have had a cork top, like any wine bottle of the day. The leather casing has a belt loop and the bottle is meant to be worn on the soldier's belt. Terry thinks the British Army of the early 1900s decided the torpedo bottle shape was the strongest and best suited to the soldier's rough and tumble lifestyle.
All of the torpedo bottles on Terry Matz's primary table are under glass. They start in price at $500 and go up steadily from there. Terry talks fast and I tried to make detailed notes but ended up with scribbles. I know one of these pieces is a McLaughlin Soda from Edmonton? acid etched? for which he wants $1000. The dark green torpedo is marked Peter Conolan from Montreal, and another $1000 bottle in the case is the aqua torpedo embossed WILLIAM FARQUHAR / SUPERIOR AERATED SODA WATER AND GINGER NECTARTerry also had a queer plaque that didn't photograph very well but which is marked HOT SODA WATER, and he laughed 'who would ever want to drink hot soda water?', and we both reflected back to a time when aerated water was considered very healthy and drinking it hot would of course lend to its appeal as a medicinal remedy.

Always a popular table at the show, this year Terry was breaking all the records and running something of a milk bottle clearing house on the north corner of the village. He had fixed in the center of his 2nd table a sign, which said All Milk Bottles $1 each and this created quite a buzz. When the dust settled and he finally got away and had a chance to walk around another curious thing happened... His daughter discounted prices by half again, and her merchandising brought more customers.
The best bottles were up on the tables, and these sold rather quickly at the original price of $1 each, while the remnants below in boxes were soon picked over by collectors looking for variations or good fodder for trades. This was a once in lifetime opportunity for young collectors to clean out a guy who just wants out of ACL milk bottles.John Hunterwas there and introduced himself to me as a fan of this blog. He told me to that Bert Dalmage, a pioneer I had profiled earlier on my blog lived to be 103 years old and only died just recently at the Golden Plow nursing home in Cobourg Ontario.John dove into Terry's bottles and while I watched he fetched out and purchased for five dollars several vessels including this ABSOLUTE PURE MILE / BELLEVILLE reproduction amber glass bottle. If this bottle were real it would be worth a fortune. It's a spectacular color and has a picture of a dairy cow on the slug plate. But alas its a reproduction of what is probably one of Ontario's best and certainly most stereotypical classic milk bottle slug plates. The bottle is made by skilled craftsmen in China to pay homage to the Canadian bottle collecting industry.John Hunter likes to dig in rural dumps and has a big collection of glass bottles from all over Eastern Ontario. He'll add some of Terry's milk bottles to the mix and this yellow vessel will impress anyone that doesn't know the difference between real and reproduction pieces.Melissa Clareis the principle organizer of the annual Four Season Bottle Collectors show and she was having fun calling out the winners of the Show Bucks. At regular intervals throughout the day she would venture over and borrow the microphone from guitar Randall and bequeath $25 Show Bucks coupons, which are laminated cards that promise dealers the money and serve as random door prizes to people who filled out questionnaires ? some forms ? or paid? or... I don't know. Somehow people got draw tickets and I'm not exactly sure how because I didn't get any tickets and was therefore ineligible to win these show bucks.But youngSandra Spudicwas eligible and she won. I noticed her first after I heard her scream! Thats right. I began watching with interest after she let out a tiny burst of excitement (which her friend Erika Wilson echoed even louder) immediately after Mellissa called out the winning numbers. I followed as the duo claimed their prize. Here I learned that they both work together in a nearby historical conservation area, and so that explains their interest in antiques. Without delaying them too long, I made Sandra promise to report back to me on what she bought with her Show Bucks.Dwight Fryer is Poison Bottle Collector
Dwight is an international poison bottle collector and his table, (as I always tell him, every year) will the first to profit from the new awakening - when young people go forth and buy into the pastime. These little poisons are 'condo bottles' and as such will always be cool collectibles to decorate bathroom medicine cabinets and window shelves. They add personality to morning light.Dwight told me he's still buying bottles, mostly coloured poisons and rare blown glass chemical bottles from no less than thirty eight different countries.Small green poison bottles are among my favourite obsessions. I was admiring this little green German bauble, on which the skull and crossbones are so delicately pronounced, as Dwight Fryer translated the embossing GIFT FLASCHE to mean 'poison bottle'.Dwight's poisons are always very popular with the ladies because they look so cool and could someday again be filled with fantastic potions, or maybe liquid bath soap? These little bottle are cool and perfect to add a touch of personality to sterile Toronto condominium bathrooms.Here's another curious piece, a clear glass bottle embossed TAYLOR PRODUCTS / BREEZY / HOUSEHOLD AMMONIA, on sale here for only $10 cash.
Carl Parsonsappeared late at the show and made quite an entrance wearing a lovely beige jacket and stylish brown shirt and pants. I held the door for him outside as he entered, lugging along a rather large and mysterious steel can. The vessel was heavy, and made of thick steel and long ago painted white. The container had a very heavy solid steel lid that was three inches thick with more of its width below top edge of the can, and so it forms a good airtight seal by virtue of it's great weight.What was this weird metal can used for?Inside this heavy metal can, Carl explained, is where early urban dentists would pitch the freshly extracted teeth of their patients, esp the molars with gold or silver filings. For the bottom part of the can was filled with acid and would work to dissolve the teeth around the silver or gold deposits. After a few months or a year in the can, the dentist could easily recover the precious metals.I went on the2010 FSBC Club Digwith Carl Parsons. He led the June expedition down into the Rosedale Valley and picked a spot whereupon he couldn't remember having dug already. We did struck some virgin dump there, but we didn't find anything valuable. All the same, it was a memorable bonding experience for five diggers that hadn't previously dug together and didn't even know each other well. We all had a lot of fun that day, we dug a deep hole and poked about in virgin dump under some easily moved soil.

James JarzabekandAdam Jarzabekwere at the show again this year. James is twelve years old now and already he knows most of the values and prices of his father's inventory off by heart.I pointed to a powder blue silk screened LAKESIDE JERSY milk bottle and James told me it was $300 without having to check any price lists. "Why so much?" I asked. And he flipped the bottle over to reveal the backside. 'Because of the baby" he said.
Sean Murphywas a fixture at the bottle show, executing the role of the club treasurer and spokesperson for the FSBC from his spacious holdings in the south central part of the floor. Two or three times we agreed to meet up for a talk, but he was always so busy entertaining longtime friends. Some of these guys may have come to the show just to see him, and to conclude a transaction of some description. Sean has lots of nice stuff and he does the research and learns about each piece before trading, selling or adding to his own collection.In the photo you can his right hand clutching the neck of a large thick glass Coca Cola wall mounted display bottle. This was one of the only Coke pieces at the show and apparently it didn't much excite Richard St Onge because he didn't buy it. But once again proving again the strength of these items as truly magnetic collectibles, Abel DaSilva appeared a few moments later and bought the 1970s era relic for $300.Abel bought the piece despite the sad fact that the bottom had a centimeter wide hole drilled in it to accommodate a pin hole light bulb. This was apparently not how Coke had sold the memorabilia but rather how some enterprising decorator or restauranteur had modified the display advertising. Abel (his buyer) was okay with modifications.Sean was having a good time and he was thrilled to report his own most recent acquisition. In this next photo he holds a J. KERNOHAH LONDON aqua torpedo soda bottle on which there is a fish logo. Think about that... Who would have bought a soda water with a fish logo on the bottle? What flavour were they expecting?
Ron DeMoorholds up his best treasure, on sale for $5000. This is a cobalt blue, twelve panel H. Sproat soda water . It was found in an recent excavation at Queen's University in Kingston Ontario, and smuggled out of the construction site by diggers in the middle of the night. Ron doesn't know who those people were, nor will he confirm or deny that authenticity of the tale, but he will ballpark the age of the vessel - it was made between 1850 and 1862. Henry Sproat is listed in the red book as 'Ginger beer maker' .
You can gaze upon theH. Sproat torpedo soda bottle here in Tim Braitwaite's collectioncourtesy of Early Canadian Bottle Works, Darren's website.Minutes before I arrived at Ron's table he sold this lovely paper label, P.C. FLETT CO, APPLE AND GOOSEBERRY JAM stoneware container which is certainly one of the most beautiful jam jars I have ever seen in my life. We find these all the time when digging in the dumps and I have seen a few simple labels but never anything as breath taking as this..Sandra Spudicfound me again and showed me what she bought with her Show Bucks. She spent $15 on two very elegant looking enamel / mirrored tea light candle holders (I'm sure they started life as some form of cosmetics accessories) and another ten bucks on a small fruit sealer with the correct lid (I forget the embossing - maybe Sandra could tell us in the comments) in which she hopes to keep buttons or other small keepsakes directly related to her passion for mending clothes and repairing high quality vintage garments. Good for you Sandra! Thanks for coming out to the show and I hope we see you out here next year.John Dunbardidnt sell his Gay Liquid Detergent sign on Sunday. This joker runs the Antique Mall in Orono and loves for all things related to early Canadian television and steam engines. He buys old TV show props and cereal box mementos as well as railway collectibles and artifacts relating to transatlantic travel on steamships. In addition to this event, John is also a fixture at the Toronto Nostalgia Show. The sign he holds is something that decorator crowd would really appreciate, because of Guy Lombardo, It seems the gay liquid detergent held no appeal to this years bottle collectors.
Paul Huntley SchoolsThe Four Seasons Bottle Collectors on City Dairy Toronto
Paul Huntleyproudly holds his new book,City Dairy Torontoon 21 Jan 2012 after speaking to a particularly passionate group of Toronto bottle collectors.If you're not a bottle collector, and you don't have a 'collecting bug' of any kind, then you probably wouldn't appreciate how satisfying it is to sit and listen to somebody show off their obsession. To study something, anything for twenty years and then write a book is a lifetime accomplishment - and to speak with knowledge and authority about something they know so well, is the treasure of wisdom. Paul Huntley spoke soft words but with great authority as he held up century old milks alongside photos of the original dairies that filled them, and the horse drawn wagons that distributed them. On the21st of January 2012, Mr Huntley put on a lovely presentation of Canadian dairy lore that was soaked up by an enlightened audience of at least twenty four people, members of theFour Seasons Bottle Collectors(FSBC) club in Toronto Ontario Canada.The monthly FSBC meeting, the first I’ve attended in three months (I missed Terry Matz talking about his torpedo bottles before Xmas), was at their usual meeting place in the Arbor Heights Community Center in Toronto, which is on Avenue Rd at Wilson Blvd just south of the hwy 401 interchange. Follow the FSBC link above for more information on the club meetings (and then come out to one!). You know what to expect, there’s rare knowledge on display here.Whenever I do get time to visit these folks, I'm usually the first one there. But this time I was late. Unfortunately I'd taken a nap and had slept until six pm. So I threw on my pants and rushed out the door, checking my email in the car I saw the meeting was scheduled to start at six fifteen. As I drove up the DVP, I wondered if I should have just stayed home.. Boy am I glad I didn’t! When I pulled into the parking lot to my surprise I discovered it was full of cars. There must be another event happening inside, I reckoned. But no.. To my shock I saw the meeting room was absolutely packed.When I walked in the door I noticed it was quiet as and everyone was listening intently to the speaker I’d never seen so many members and many new faces crowded around the tables to hear the shy softly spoken words of Paul Huntley, a historian and Toronto City Dairy archivist. Paul is a published author and I bought his book. He was showcasing some of the highlights fromCity Dairy Torontoalongside the actual bottles and photographs that have been reproduced inside.Paul Huntley must have enjoyed speaking to this assembly of passionate people, Canadian bottle collectors, veteran dumpdiggers; they're a small and tightly focused sub culture that's obsessed with all things made of antique glass and salt glazed stoneware. Here's a crowd that eagerly laps up this respected historian's words and chuckles at his inside jokes, because they truly understand his references to people and places and practices long since forgotten by the rest of society.The book is filled with rare black and white photos showing the rise of City Dairy Toronto.
In 1903 the City Dairy had just 3% of the Toronto marketand by 1915 it dominated over 40% of the market. At one point there were eight six wagons serving 25,000 homes. From its early beginnings through to its acquisition by Bordens in 1930, the City Dairy maintained its distinction of serving more homes than any other dairy in the British Empire.You know, I can’t help wondering about all the cows - this was surely a great age for Canadian farmers as the City of Toronto would have provided a wonderful large market for their milk, grain and vegetables. I could imagine how lucrative it might be to sell fresh milk to the city everyday. But it would also be very laborious. In those days milk production was done completely by hand, and so the family farm really couldn’t manage more than twenty five milking cows at once, milking them twice a day. Paul's book details the Massey Farms and the experimental farm as it outlines the early 1900s milk supply chain for Toronto.City Dairy Toronto
A Yellow Wagon on Every Street
The Table of Contents
Milk Supply for the Citizens of Toronto,Walter Edward Hart Massey,Dentonia Park Experimental Farm,The Milk Commission,A Modern Production Facility,A Scientific Approach to Milk Production,Maintaining A Clean Milk Supply,The First Milk Delivery,The Milk Supply of Toronto,The Most Advanced Plant in Canada,City Dairy Leadership After Massey,Advertising of Fairy Tales,Participation at Exhibitions,A Towering AccomplishmentMilk Delivery,Milk Delivery from Horse Drawn,Ice Cream Creations,Plant Expansion,Kensington Dairy,S Price and Sons Purchase,Milk Pasteurization,Swiss Kephyr Milk,Island Delivery,Drimilk Powdered Milk,Vetcraft,City Dairy Farms New Lowell,The Dairy Herd,Record of Employees in the Great War,Division of Bordens,Golden Crest Years,Melorol Ice Cream,Milk Fit for A King and Queen,Toronto Milk Foundation,
Life as an Educational InstitutionWHAT I HEARD AT THE MEETINGJust as I sat down and opened my notebook I heard the words ‘Thistletown dairy’ (I was reduced to writing on top of my sore leg as there was no more room at the table). And beside that word I dashed the locationHumber River / Albion and Islington. I dont know why I'm writing this here I have no context for it. Perhaps I thought it might be an adventure destination - to find the Thistletown Dairy. Indeed that does have a ring to it.Some dairy dates I didn't know
1889Capseat Indents in the mouth of a milk bottle were introduced into the Toronto market. This innovation in milk bottle production allowed cardboard caps to sit properly and better seal the glass lip of the bottle.1915Pasteurization became mandatory in Toronto – The city passed a municipal bylaw mandating that all dairies sell only pasteurized milk – as a result many Toronto dairies close their doors
1937The Province of Ontario made all dairies sell pasteurized milk.By1929, two large dairies had taken over Toronto and most of the surrounding towns. These were Silverwoods, which was operating in the east end of the city, and Bordens which had locked up the west and was expanding south around the lake.More things I learned from Paul Huntley,Silkscreen milk bottles are often called ACL meaningApplied Colour Labelsand the really early ones date form 1937 and 1938 . Applied colour labels were gaining popularity .re and some very collectible early ACL milk bottles are decorated with scenes from the Royal Visit to Toronto in 1939. Are there any such bottles made by City Dairy - I suspect there must be otherwise why would he bring it up? But I didnt see any.ACL City Dairy milk bottles changed in appearance again in 1939 with the dawn of World War II. Some Applied Colour Labels (ACL) carried scenes of ships, tanks, planes and little boys watching them.? no picsSoon after that, the Milk Foundation was created to help sell milk. This must have been similar to the milk marketing board we have today - they used a collective fund to help advertise milk's health benefits. Look below at an early advertisement for pasteurized ice cream that's 'pure' and wont spread tuberculosis.
I learned that square milk bottles were introduced after the war alongside the rise of refrigerator technology. the small square shapes were better for shipping handling and they fit inside cramped refrigerator iceboxes better. I made a note of the fact that Paul believes the grey horse was especially sought after by milkmen for early morning milk delivery routes - the grey horse shows up in the dim morning light better, and is therefore safer. Tin tops were not usually found on milk bottles outside the United States. Little tidbitsWere amber bottles used exclusively for Buttermilk? Sean Murphy asked, and Paul Huntley answered yes to that question. The most quintessential examples of these amber ‘buttermilk’ bottles dates from between 1900 – 1910 .Paul's next appearance is at the East York Historical Society on Feb 15th. Here he will be speaking on City Dairy and Dentonia Dairy as many folks in the society have shown interest in that topic. Paul told me that he always hopes he will meet some people that can relate there own personal stories and memories of the dairy. Wednesday February 15 2012 at 2:00 PMimage added courtesy ofEarly Canadian Bottle Works (ECBW), Paul Huntley CollectionDont miss Paul Huntley speaking at
East York Historical Society
Show and Tell DiscussionThe History of the City Dairy of Toronto
Speaker Paul Huntley will discuss the history of the City Dairy from its creation including the Massey Farm known as Dentonia. He will also bring some dairy memorabilia and copies of his new publication on the City Dairy. Bring any questions, photos, maps, memorabilia or information you would like to share and take part in the discussion.
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 at 2 pm
At S. Walter Stewart Library
170 Memorial Park Avenue at Durant
Sponsored by the East York Historical Society and
The Toronto Public Library, S. Walter Stewart Branch
Free admission
Four Seasons Bottle CollectorsMeetingThe second half of the meeting was business as usual. There's lots of planning and preparation being made for the annual FSBC Show and Sale in April - this time there is a new location . And there was talk of having a party on Saturday night for the dealers to swap stories and trade bottles andfor theCarl Parsons had some wonderful 'cures' or early wacky patent medicine bottles in front of him on the table. I snapped some shots of them as he was making change for my raffle tickets - the monthly FSBC random draw is an exciting event and a staple in the experience of vsiting the club meetings. Carl always talks up the quality of the bottle being raffled (its a secret) but I find they are never as good as the ones he has on display in front of his notebook at the table. Look below at the amber 'East India Cure' and the queer yellow glass Extract of Smart Weed.
Sean Murphy: Show and TellThe best part of the bottle club meetings is hearing each member talk intelligently and usually very passionately about a piece of pottery or a glass bottle they have recently discovered, or treasured for some time. There is a theme for each meeting's show and tell and its fun to see the variations on that theme as presented by each collector operating inside their own particular niche.Before Sean spoke there were three other collectors who presented their materials but being shy they would no doubt prefer not be chronicled here. Sean is however no stranger to my blog salutations.
And that's a good thing because Sean Murphy is a constant fountain of great material and encouragement to the rest of the members. His show and tell displays are consistently remarkable.On the 21 Jan meeting Sean showcased a wide variety of glass paperweights set around a smattering of other rare and impressive objects including beautiful redware pottery and a lovely jug stenciled ...Here's a Whitby jug
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Good news. Veteran historical diggerDaniel McGee, a resident of New York City and core to theManhattan Well Diggershas handcrafted another adventure filled digging story and graciously donated pictures and text to Dumpdiggers for your reading enjoyment. Like always, the story begins with a way cool shot of NYC and here again is the new World Trade Center nearing completion. Now without further delay, lets tunnel back in time 150 years...Gotham City Salvage I, II, III
by Daniel McGeeWhile out drumming up some digs, we noticed an entire section of a city block being demolished. The old maps showed this area had been laid out around 1780, and this was one of the original cobblestone streets! These old house-lots have lots of potential for subterranean discoveries in their long buried, long forgotten, elusive backyard privies. This location was densely populated and lined with buildings by the 1820s-30s, including a sizable schoolhouse by the 1840s, which is a key period in bottle manufacturing history. Recently all the buildings had been knocked down and the bare earth exposed. This sight inspired several more recon trips.On our next journey to the site we observed all the telltale signs of a disturbed privy. The evidence was there on the surface, including a large piece of an early banded bowl with a worm /cable pattern and a redware fragment with black splotching alongside it, a few dark blue transferware shards and some recently unearthed oyster shells resting beside desiccated food bones, all with night soil and ashes stuck to them. Without any doubts, we knew at least one old vault had been penetrated by the heavy machinery processing the site. In any case, we had to mobilize the edge of a broken sidewalk scoping out the terrain, trackhoes were filling 30 ton dump trucks with weighty buckets of brick-rubble, dirt and debris. Around noon the booms were resting and the engines idled down to a barely audible thrum. The trucks were tarped and gone, and the trackhoe operators off on a long break. It was time to head back over to the edge of the site, and have another look around for the original lot lines. This is usually a good place to search for evidence of privies and trash pits. Even more so that day, since the spot had recently been scraped down 3 feet by a large machine. This condition left certain features exposed which hadn’t seen the light of day in 150 years.We began by shoveling alongside what appeared to be the remains of a freestanding redbrick wall. Brick by brick a second wall was outlined and then a third. Without a doubt it was some kind of underground chamber. We grew more excited as we found wood ashes, and three moldy leather shoe bottoms, a clay pipe with a bit of stem left on it dating to the late 19th century, a mouth-blown bottleneck here and there, and a bone toothbrush handle.Doing all this digging and discovering took some time, as you can imagine, and we soon observed the guys in charge rounding the corner, returning from their lunch. They were visible working some distance away, and although their machines were running at full throttle again, they never drifted back over to our deepening hole.Descending into the bricklined privy-vault, we soon encountered a wide array of dirt encrusted antique glass bottles from the 1880s-1890s. At one point really pretty bottles were being discovered one after another. The recovered specimens were perhaps not the very pinnacle of bottle collecting, but all were handmade examples of the art and sufficiently motivating for us diggers, with plenty more ground left under our feet to explore.After identifying all four walls of the 5’x 6’structure and cleaning the dirt away, the dig went on for a few more hours until reaching the hardpan base. As we dug down we encountered several layers of bottles and artifacts, and some of the best ones at the bottom had been manufactured as early as the 1850s.In conclusion we had recovered about sixty intact antique glass bottles ranging from 1850s-1890s. An assortment of mostly generic pontils, two Civil War era sodas, a half dozen crude early black-ales, several smooth-based medicines, a handful of local pharmacies, hutches, whiskeys, and others were arranged for the picture. We packed up the best ones and backfilled the hole.But this digging story doesn't end here,Despite the major excavation being done on the site, we knew it was still possible a few more privies were concealed here. On our next visit we learned that a twelve story building with a large underground parking garage was being developed on the property, which guaranteed everything had to be removed before construction could begin. Most of the original land had already been dug up and trucked away by the contractor, and the one slice which remained still had a 3 foot ledge covering it, including a layer of concrete with an asphalt cap. Amid the densely packed rubble at the border of the ledge we dug test holes to settle the matter as productively as possible before nightfall. This was Dig II.This dig was hard work.
Sharply contrasting the general ease of our first excavation, this area was a bitch. It wasn’t until after I dug deep and descending up to my neck into one of our narrow test holes that I found some encouraging evidence. On the end of my shovel I could see early transfer fragments. First one, and then another, and then other recognizable shapes began to appear. An early discovery was the forest green glass soda Philadelphia “XXX” Porter bottle and then a similar example in a much lighter shade. Despite numerous setbacks, which I wont describe here, we eventually discovered a seam of bottles and chased the goody vein into dense pocket of broken pottery and glass, lying snugly within a promising bed of night soil.An intact ovoid crock with a local maker’s mark was eventually extracted from its formidable resting spot. This is an important example of the Potters' art, which was probably made down at Raritan Bay, somewhere around 1825-1835. The privy also contained 25 intact bottles, half of them pontiled and half of them smooth based, half embossed and half oldest artifacts at the bottom of the second privy dated to about 1830. We had uncovered a pocket of good history here that included a colorful mixture of decimated tableware from nearly two centuries ago, all wedged between brick-bats, stones, oyster shells, wet dirt and damp ashes, but no intact antique glass bottles were found. There were no significant discoveries of any kind, which is, in my experience, quite typical when digging with pre-1850s privies.However the best things come to those who dig, and dig, and keep digging.The following week, Dig III in another early brickliner produced the best bottle yet, an iron pontiled soda, in sapphire, from the 1850s! This rare variant was discovered in a layer with 4 broken examples and a deep green soda from the same period missing its lip, along with a smooth based soda, an umbrella ink and a number of other intact our estimation there are probably 2-3 privies still waiting under the concrete at the far end of the site… we’ll keep you posted as things unfold.Dan

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Rob Roy MacGregor (1671 - 1734)
Notorious cattle thief and Jacobite Guerilla. Walter Scott much exaggerated MacGregor's
fame, painting him as a defender of the Highland way of life. Rob Roy MacGregor was the second son of Donald MacGregor at Inverlochaig at the head of Loch Doine.

Along with many Highland clans, at the age of eighteen Rob Roy together with his father joined the Jacobite rising led by Viscount Dundee to support the Stuart King James who had been deposed by William of Orange. Although victorious in initial battles, "Bonnie Dundee" was killed and their fortunes fell. Rob’s father was taken to jail, where he was held on doubtful treason charges for two years. Rob’s mother Margaret’s health faltered and then failed during Donald’s time in prison. By the time Donald was finally released, his wife was dead, and his reason for living also gone. The Gregor chief would never return to his former spirit or health.

Rob Roy became a well-known and respected cattleman — this was a time when cattle were considered common property, taking someone's cattle was not illegal, and selling protection against theft (blackmail) was an honest means of earning a living.His life as an outlaw started when he was unable to repay money that he had borrowed form the Duke of Montrose to fund his growing cattle trade.Rob Roy borrowed a large sum of money to increase his own cattle herd, but due to the deception of his chief herder, who was entrusted with the money to bring the cattle back, Rob Roy lost his money and cattle, and defaulted on his loan. As a result, he was branded an outlaw, and his wife and family were evicted from their house at Inversnaid, which was then burned down. After his principal creditor, James Graham, 1st Duke of Montroseseized his lands and property and Rob Roy fled with his debt unpaid.From this time onwards Rob Roy and the followers he had gathered, at one time as many as 500 men, profited from raiding lands of the Duke and those of his neighbours. Though he relieved many of their property it is said that he was never brutal or cruel with his victims and never stole from the common man, there was after all no profit from robbing a poor man.Montrose captured Rob Roy but he made a famous escape, with the aid of a friend in the employ of the Duke at the ford in the river near Balquidder.Rob Roy warred with the duke until 1722, when Rob Roy was forced to surrender. Later imprisoned, he was finally pardoned in 1727. He died in his house at Inverlochlarig Beg, Balquhidder, on 28 December 1734.


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