5/8" (1.5 cm) lens to subject, makes getting good lighting on the subject more of a challenge. without the light you cant focus. I used the 38mm om macro after failing to get this bee lit up. With the 38mm the working distance is about 1 1/4" which makes the ring flash reach the subject. I wanted to use the 20mm macro on the eye. The bee is laying on his back and the lens is pointing at the top of his head. 38mm is 5x, the 20mm is 12x
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